I won't be writing a detailed overview of Darwin's personal life and academic contributions, since I'm quite sure that there are already many good books and blog articles about this subject matter.
Instead I will highlight this excellent documentary produced by PBS in 2001. If you haven't seen it before and have a couple of hours to spare, do check it out.
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See rebuttal of the PBS series by Dr Jonathan Sarfati here at
http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/3854
BTW, according to the website Dr Jonathan Sarfati would be in Singapore in November this year to speak on creation. If you feel up to it you may want to appear in one of the venues and challenge his views.
Anon, I have no idea what you're thinking. You previously said:
"Yes I know Denton went from agnostic to theistic evolutionist. But he is still a creationist! He at least sees the problem with evolution, do you?"
Which means that a person who accepts common descent is still a creationist by your definition, as long as he believes in a creator God.
But now you point to Sarfati's article which says:
"Darwin’s obvious anti-Christianity doesn’t stop Kenneth Miller claiming to be ‘an orthodox Catholic and an orthodox Darwinist’. He wrote a book, Finding Darwin’s God (2000), an anti-creationist polemic, to try to reconcile God and evolution. Miller has had a long history of joining forces with leading humanists against Creation, and his book is full of straw-man arguments, misinformation and outright deception."
He considers Ken Miller to be an anti-creationist. But Ken Miller is also a theistic evolutionist.
So is a theistic evolutionist a creationist or an anti-creationist?
I never said that anyone who accepts common descent is a creationist, so that's not my conclusion at all.
I believe Jonathan Sarfati means by creationist the "Young Earth Creationists" who believe that God created as is taught by a plain reading of the Genesis text in 6 ordinary days about 6000 years ago. I was however using it earlier in a broader sense as anyone who believes that God is ultimate creator and that naturalistic evolutionary processes fails to answer the question of origins. Is Denton an evolutionist? Yes he is, though he questions its given powers touted by many evolutionists. Is Denton a creationist? Yes he is, in a non young earth sense. So no, I am not contradicting myself in anyway.
In any case, a theistic evolutionist is an anti-creationist, taking the definition that creationists are the young earth creationists, which most in the CE debate defines as such anyway. There, I hope I have explained and clarified myself. So don't sweat it.
"Yes I know Denton went from agnostic to theistic evolutionist. But he is still a creationist!"
"I never said that anyone who accepts common descent is a creationist, so that's not my conclusion at all."
"Is Denton an evolutionist? Yes he is, though he questions its given powers touted by many evolutionists. Is Denton a creationist? Yes he is, in a non young earth sense. So no, I am not contradicting myself in anyway."
???
What's your confusion? What's so difficult to understand that broadly speaking, creationists are people who believe that there is a Creator (which would include all those who believe God used evolution), but that in the CE debate the label creationists are usually used to refer to young earth creationists who hold to a 6 day creation, a global flood and that the earth is about 6000 years old?
How much more clearer do I need to explain this? If you think I made a contradiction then you are wrong. Had I said Denton was a creationist (6 day creationist) but not a creationist (6 day creationist) then I contradict myself. But if I said that Denton was a creationist (in the theistic evolutionist sense) but not a creationist (in the 6 day creationist sense) then I am not contradicting myself. Clear? I even explained and clarified what creationist meaning I am using.
Boleh? Ke yi mah? Eh Sai boh?
Still confused? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Creationists
Must, resist...
An apple is an apple.
An orange is an orange.
If something is not an apple, then it has to be an orange.
Something can be an apple, and also an orange (but only when the orange is green).
Hope that makes sense.
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